Place: | Shield Room, Civic Centre, West Paddock, Leyland, PR25 1DH |
Present: | Councillor Mrs D Gardner (in the chair) Councillors Ms Bell, S Bennett, W Bennett, Clark, Coulton, Crook, Evans, Forrest, Foster, M Gardner, Mrs Mary Green, Michael Green, Hamman, Hanson, Harrison, Hesketh, Heyworth, Higgins, Mrs Hothersall, Howarth, Hughes, K Jones, Mrs S Jones, Kelly, Marsh, Martin, Mrs Mort, Mullineaux, Nelson, Mrs Noblet, O'Hare, Ogilvie, Otter, Pimblett, Prynn, Rainsbury, Mrs M Smith, Smith, Stettner, Suthers, Titherington, C Tomlinson, M Tomlinson, Miss Walker, Walton, Mrs Woollard and Yates |
In attendance: | The Chief Executive (Mike Nuttall), the Director of Corporate Governance (Maureen Wood) and the Democratic Services Officer (Carol Eddleston) |
Public attendance: | 3 |
Other Officers: | 3 |
Item | Description/Resolution | Status | Action | |
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47 |
Apologies for Absence Apologies for absence were submitted on behalf of Councillors Mrs Ball, Beattie, Bradley, Mrs Moon, Patten, Robinson and Watts. |
Noted | ||
48 |
Declarations of Interest Councillor Martin declared a personal interest in a number of items as an employee of Lancashire County Council. These are reported in the relevant minute below. |
Noted | ||
49 |
Minutes of the Meeting held on 18 September 2013 Minutes attached Councillor Titherington said that some of his comments to the Mayor at the close of the last meeting may have been perceived as being discourteous to her and to the mayoral office. He stressed that this had not been his intention and that he fully supported the Mayor and the mayoral office. Councillor Heyworth referred to comments made at the last meeting about the timing of his reporting at the July meeting of an incident in Brickfield Wood and said he would not want anybody to think he was being tardy. He pointed out that he had said at the time that he had been reluctant to raise the matter earlier because he had been relying on hearsay. RESOLVED (unanimously) that: |
Agreed | ||
50 |
Report of the Cabinet Report (90K/bytes) attached Councillor Martin declared a personal interest in this item as an employee of Lancashire County Council. Councillor Crook said he was pleased to see the progress being made on the LDF Site Allocations DPD Adoption Version and that Cabinet was recommending that the Planning Inspector?s recommendations be accepted. However, he pointed out that the Inspector had issued only a Partial Report because she had considered that sites for gypsies and travellers had not been adequately dealt with. He was surprised that this had not been mentioned in the Cabinet report although members were being asked to vote on it and he sought assurance that the matter would be addressed. Councillor Hughes said that this had been discussed at length and he had made the point that a report had found some years ago that there was no need for such a site. However, in response to the Inspector?s view that the need should now be reviewed, this Council had co-commissioned a study with Chorley Borough and Preston City Councils. Councillor Foster referred to Cabinet?s decision to waive paragraphs 10.1 to 10.3 of Contract Procedure Rules for the telephony system upgrade. Noting that waivers should be used only in exceptional circumstances, he asked for an explanation of what the exceptional circumstances were. He did not believe that this spend was a good use of the Council?s money and he suggested that the Governance Committee should be asked to look at the waiving of the Contract Procedure Rules. Councillor Hamman said that he had previously pointed out that the alternative would have been to spend in the region of ?500,000 on a new telephony system. Information Technology was a difficult area in as far as certain elements within wider systems sometimes had to be replaced and the decision had been taken to spend ?43,000 rather than ?500,000. He would be happy for the Governance Committee to look at this but he confirmed that the Monitoring Officer and the Legal department had been consulted about whether the correct procedure was being followed and they had confirmed that it was. Councillor Foster expressed his concern at the response which seemed to indicate that the decision to waive Contract Procedure Rules had not been taken due to exceptional circumstances but rather to save money. He suggested that the Cabinet Member had therefore admitted to breaching the rules. As chairman of the Governance Committee, Councillor W Bennett said that he would be happy to meet with Councillor Foster as vice-chairman, and Councillor Hamman as Cabinet Member for Corporate and Support Services, to discuss the issues raised. Councillor Martin welcomed the introduction of the Scrap Metal Dealers Act 2013 but had some concerns about the wording and enquired how it would be enforced. Councillor P Smith pointed out that the wording was fixed as this was primary legislation. Council officers would be responsible for enforcement. In relation to the Review of Charges for Fixed Penalty Notices (FPN) item, Councillor M Tomlinson said that the Labour group was fully supportive of the Council?s zero tolerance approach but was a little mystified by the Cabinet?s decision not to increase two of the FPNs to the maximum amount permissible. Councillor Mullineaux explained that the Council used a zero tolerance and education approach. Recovering unpaid fines via the court system would incur additional expense and keeping fines for certain offences at a particular level could make all the difference to how likely the offender was to pay the fine. Councillor Martin commented on a recent incident where a dog roaming off the lead had attacked and killed a cat. As the road where the incident had occurred was unadopted, no action could be taken. With this in mind, he foresaw problems in the future when the City Deal brought forward lots of new developments whose roads might not be speedily adopted. Councillor Hughes acknowledged that unadopted roads were a ?nuisance?. The local highways authority was of course the Lancashire County Council but this council was working hard with developers and the county council to encourage them to ensure that the roads were brought up to adoptable standards. With regard to the Waste Re-tendering and Procurement of Vehicles, Councillor Pimblett enquired whether the waste service could be brought back in house.. At Councillor M Tomlinson?s comment that there had been no mention in the report of member involvement in the exercise, Councillor Mullineaux acknowledged that the report had mentioned an officer group but he would be happy to have all party member involvement in the project. Acknowledging a comment from Councillor Mullineaux that the current waste service arrangements had been introduced by the Labour/Lib Dem coalition, Councillor Howarth expressed his hope that the invitation to tender would be based on the current arrangements rather than a return to the previous arrangements. Councillor Mullineaux confirmed that it was a very important contract. Although he had some sympathy with residents in the vicinity of 30 Rhodesway, Councillor Foster said he did not believe that the proposed spend on the property was an efficient or effective use of Council money or that it was in line with the empty homes policy. Councillor Hughes said he was saddened by this comment as he believed the Council had a responsibility to look after its residents. He hoped that by bringing the property back into use, it would assist the Council to meet its aims of working with Methodist Action to rent out properties to homeless people. He did not consider this to be a waste of public money. The Leader pointed out that when the property was brought back into use it would generate New Homes Bonus income for the Council for six years and Council Tax. Councillor M Tomlinson suggested that the report might have been more palatable if there had been reference to potential New Homes Bonus and Council Tax income. In response to a suggestion from Councillor Foster that the decision was being rushed in order to keep certain members happy, Councillor W Bennett said that although the property concerned was in his ward he had had no influence in the decision and, as he considered that it was an effective use of Council money, he would have supported it whichever the ward. Councillor Green pointed out that it was part of a councillor?s role to raise issues which were of concern to the residents that s/he represented. RESOLVED that: |
Agreed | ||
51 |
Report of the Scrutiny Committee Report (51K/bytes) attached Councillor Martin declared a personal interest in this item as an employee of Lancashire County Council. Councillor Titherington presented the report of the Scrutiny Committee meetings held on 9 October and 5 November. The report was seconded. Councillor Titherington said that the committee had contacted Serco outside of the 9 October meeting seeking reassurance that the organisation did not indulge in some of the practices recently reported in the press. He was pleased to report that Lancashire Fire and Rescue Service appeared to be taking on board much of the committee?s response to the consultation on emergency cover and had been delighted with the level of public attendance. Councillor M Tomlinson congratulated the members of the Scrutiny Committee for their input to this consultation. |
Noted | ||
52 |
Report of the Governance Committee Report attached Councillor W Bennett presented the report of the Governance Committee meeting held on 25 September. The report was seconded. He urged more members of the Council to read the reports provided by the external auditors, Grant Thornton, which he considered to contain some of the most important information about the Council that members would see. The new audit contract generated recurring savings of ?40K annually and members had been reassured that the level of audit and scrutiny had been maintained and that Grant Thornton was in fact adding value to the service provided. He again congratulated the officers involved for their excellent work on the 2012/13 audit. The report on the Council?s financial resilience had shown that the Council?s arrangements met or exceeded adequate standards in all but one indicator, ?adequacy of planning assumptions?. This was, however, outside of this Council?s control, given the current inherent uncertainties in the level of future funding to be received from Government and impact on savings required. |
Noted | ||
53 |
Report of the Boundary Committee Report (81K/bytes) attached The Leader presented the report of the Boundary Committee meetings held on 22 October and 4 November. The report was seconded. The Leader commented that since the 4 November meeting some further work had been carried out relating to recommendation 3 (proposed Walton-le-Dale West and Walton-le-Dale East wards) and members of her group were happy but she did not know whether or not Councillor Watts still had some concerns. Councillor M Tomlinson said that the Labour group?s submission had now been sent off and it was largely in line with many of the suggestions from the Boundary Commission. He paid tribute to the hours of work undertaken by Councillors Martin and Watts. There was some discussion from all sides of the chamber about particular ward names and about the appropriateness or otherwise of single-member wards. RESOLVED that: |
Agreed | ||
54 |
Scrutiny Review of Health Inequalities Report (3M/bytes) attached Councillor Martin declared a personal interest in this item as an employee of Lancashire County Council. Councillor Titherington presented the report of the Health Inequalities Task Group and expressed his thanks to all those who had been involved: fellow task group members, partners, health officials and representatives of various bodies. He expressed particular appreciation to Darren Cranshaw, Scrutiny and Performance Officer for his diligence and professionalism. A DVD which helped put the review in context was shown to the Council. Councillor Titherington said that this Council had already begun to build relationships with various appropriate agencies even before the Health and Social Care Reform Act had begun to be implemented and recognised that the setting up of the Chorley and South Ribble Health and Wellbeing Partnership was a unique initiative amongst the Lancashire boroughs. The Health Profile reports of 2011 and 2012 provided startling reading as in 2011 the difference in life expectancy between those living in the most deprived areas of the borough and those in the least deprived areas was 8.6 years for men and 6.3 years for women. In 2012 this gap had widened. He said that the review had been undertaken at a time of unprecedented change in the health service and health sector and 70% of the health determinants responsible for health and wellbeing lay outside the health service (including jobs, housing, leisure and environment). Whilst this authority did not have any statutory powers under the Health and Social Care Act, that should not allow the Council to abrogate its responsibilities or deter it from acting in the interests of local residents. The report had been structured in such a way that the health determinants had been identified and practical, appropriate and effective recommendations proposed. Councillor Miss Walker seconded the report and shared some of her thoughts on the review. Councillor P Smith thanked members of the task group for their hard work on the report and Councillor Titherington for inviting him and the Leader to discuss their thoughts on an earlier draft. He welcomed the recognition in Councillor Titherington?s presentation of the work of the Health and Wellbeing Partnership and of Jeremy Hunt, MP?s commitment to narrowing the gap in health inequalities. Councillor M Tomlinson welcomed what he said was an excellent report with some really good recommendations and said that every member involved in its preparation should be commended. Health inequalities did not occur just between boroughs such as Burnley and Ribble Valley, but the report showed that a person?s health was determined by where s/he was born and where s/he subsequently lived. Councillor Titherington concluded by saying that the intention of the report was to tackle health inequalities and not to be divisive or to direct criticism in any direction. RESOLVED (unanimously) that: |
Agreed | ||
55 |
Central Lancashire Local Development Framework Joint Advisory Committee - Revised Terms of Reference Report (63K/bytes) attached Councillor Martin declared a personal interest in this item as an employee of Lancashire County Council. Councillor Hughes presented the report which recommended a revision to the committee?s terms of reference in light of a number of factors relating to joint working across the county. The report was seconded. RESOLVED (unanimously) that: |
Agreed | ||
56 |
Questions to the Leader Councillor Martin declared a personal interest in this item as an employee of Lancashire County Council. Noting that the county council had recently begun the process of becoming a Living Wage employer, Councillor Mrs S Jones enquired if the Leader would be reconsidering her own position on the matter. The Leader observed that the county council?s decision would cost ?3M in tax payers? money. This Council had debated the matter at length previously and she still stood by her position. Councillor M Tomlinson expressed his disappointment at the Leader?s response and said that people who worked for councils should not be working for a ?poverty wage?. He said that the Prime Minister himself had said that the Living Wage was an idea whose time had come and he wondered therefore if the Leader considered that Mr Cameron was ?woefully out of touch?. Councillor Michael Green welcomed the significant progress that now seemed to be being made in relation to the ongoing closure of Longmeanygate following the fatal accident in April. Numerous meetings had taken place between relevant parties and he asked the Leader to thank those concerned and to do everything in her power to expedite the re-opening of that stretch of Longmeanygate. The Leader welcomed Councillor Green?s thanks and confirmed that efforts were ongoing to try to bring the matter to a satisfactory conclusion. In response to the request to attendees to switch off all electronic devices at the start of the meeting, a member of the public enquired when the Council chamber would be equipped with an effective communication system which would enable attendees to tweet during meetings. The Leader confirmed that she was not a user of Twitter herself and there were no plans to replace the current equipment at this point in time. Councillor Howarth questioned the provision of tablets to members if they could not be used in the Council chamber when the microphone and voting system was in use. Councillor Forrest had submitted a question to the Leader in advance about whether this council had signed up to offering 10 days paid leave for potential reservists to attend military training in line with the government?s hope of replacing 20,000 regulars with reservists. The Leader thanked Councillor Forrest for his question and invited Councillor Ogilvie to respond as Member Champion for the Armed Forces. Councillor Ogilvie confirmed that at the current time there were no existing employees who were reservists. Many years ago there had been one officer involved who had been granted two weeks? paid leave to attend annual camp. The council had not received directly any correspondence or publicity or request to sign up but, given Councillor Forrest?s question, would consider the matter more fully and report back. |
Noted | ||
57 |
Questions to Members of the Cabinet Councillor Martin declared a personal interest in this item as an employee of Lancashire County Council. Deputy Leader, Neighbourhoods and Street Scene Councillor Prynn asked if the Cabinet Member agreed with her that an increase in betting shops and payday loan companies might be detrimental to the health and well-being of South Ribble?s communities, particularly young people and residents affected by austerity measures and the current economic climate. Noting that gambling could be addictive and may lead to further stresses and strains on the health service and criminal justice system, she asked whether the Council should take the opportunity offered by the Gambling Bill currently going through Parliament to put forward amendments which called for more stringent controls on Gambling outlets and terminals. She enquired how many betting shops were operating within the borough and about the number of fixed odds betting machines located within these shops or elsewhere in the community. She also enquired about the number of pay day loan companies operating in South Ribble and the percentage increase of such companies over the last ten years. |
Noted | ||
58 |
Questions to Chairmen of Committees and My Neighbourhood Areas Councillors C Tomlinson and Ms Bell referred to a recent good news story in the local press which had spoken of Leyland as a good place to raise a family and congratulated Leyland members, past and present, for their work in helping to make Leyland such an attractive location. In response to recent revelations about the former chairman of the Co-operative Bank, Councillor O?Hare enquired of the Governance Committee chairman if this Council had any investments in this bank and whether the Treasury Management Strategy might need any revision in the light of the emerging issues. Councillor W Bennett confirmed that the Council had no investments in this bank and that it would not meet the criteria of the Council?s Treasury Management Strategy anyway. |
Noted | ||
59 |
Questions to Representatives on Outside Bodies In response to a question from Councillor Foster, Councillor Ogilvie confirmed that he would be attending a county wide signing of an Armed Forces Community Covenant to sign the covenant on behalf of this Council. It was a covenant between Lancashire County Council, representatives of the municipal, public, private, charitable and voluntary sectors of Lancashire, the civilian community of Lancashire and the armed forces community in Lancashire. |
Noted | ||
60 |
Notice of Motion Councillor Martin declared a personal interest in this item as an employee of Lancashire County Council. Notice of the following motion, to be proposed by Councillor Martin and seconded by Councillor Titherington, had been submitted in accordance with Standing Order 9(2). ?This Council notes evidence which has emerged as part of a Parliamentary inquiry into blacklisting in employment, which has brought forward allegations of widespread use of blacklists in relation to public sector works. Councillor Titherington congratulated Councillor Martin for bringing this important motion to Council and was pleased to be able to second it. He had witnessed the impact of blacklisting first hand and was aware of the effect it had on people and their families. He said that there could be few more heinous crimes perpetrated against human rights than the practice of denying somebody their right to earn a living. He said that the motion asked members of the Council to say that they simply did not accept the practice of blacklisting and would not be doing business or be associated with any firms or organisations who were indulging in it or had done so in the past. Councillor Hamman rose to propose the following amendment to the motion: ?This Council notes evidence which has emerged as part of a Parliamentary inquiry into blacklisting in employment, which has brought forward allegations of the use of blacklists in relation to some areas of public sector works. 2. Details of any successful legal action taken against the company or its subsidiaries for breach of the Employment Relations Act 1999 (Blacklisting) Regulations 2010 together with any mitigating action that has subsequently been taken to prevent a repetition.? In response to Councillor Foster?s suggestion that the amendment was out of order because paragraph 3, in referring to the use of leverage tactics, was not relevant to the Notice of Motion, the Leader confirmed that great care had been taken with the wording of the amendment and in fact the first four paragraphs were simply preamble to the recommendations which would be voted on. Her group was broadly supportive of the motion but considered that the Labour group?s wording was potentially not proportionate or balanced in the right direction. The Mayor was advised by officers that in their view the amendment was in order. Councillor Pimblett said that blacklisting was despicable and he suggested that the proposed amended in fact watered down the original notice of motion. There were some suggestions from Labour group members that the amendment was more likely to gain unanimity if the paragraph referring to leverage tactics were removed but Conservative group members argued that this should be maintained. Councillor M Tomlinson conferred with his members and indicated that the Labour group would not be voting on the amendment. At this point the Labour group members left the chamber. Conservative group members stood in support of Councillor Michael Green?s request for a named vote. The Mayor invited members to vote on the amendment. The vote was carried. Conservative ? YES ? 27 ? Liberal Democrat ? NO ? 2 The meeting then proceeded to vote on the substantive motion: RESOLVED (YES ? 27, ABSTENTION ? 2) that: Conservative ? YES - 27 Liberal Democrat ? ABSTENTION ? 2 |
Agreed |