Agenda and minutes

Governance Committee - Thursday, 24th January, 2019 6.00 pm

Venue: Wheel Room, Civic Centre, West Paddock, Leyland PR25 1DH

Contact: Dianne Scambler  Email:

No. Item


Apologies for absence


Apologies for absence were received from Councillor David Suthers.


Declarations of Interest

Members are requested to indicate at this stage in the proceedings any items on the agenda in which they intend to declare an interest. Members are reminded that if the interest is a Disclosable Pecuniary Interest (as defined in the Members’ Code of Conduct) they must leave the room for the whole of that item. If the interest is not a Disclosable Pecuniary Interest, but is such that a member of the public could reasonably regard it as being so significant that it is likely that it would prejudice their judgment of the public interest (as explained in the Code of Conduct) then they may make representations, but then must leave the meeting for the remainder of the item.



None declared.


Minutes of the Last Meeting pdf icon PDF 101 KB

Held on Thursday, 22 November 2018, to be signed as a correct record.


The minutes of the last meeting held on 22 November 2018 were agreed, subject to minutes number 37 being amended to read that the Section 151 Officer presented the report, not the Deputy Chief Executive (Resources and Transformation).


The Chair referred to minute number 31 and confirmed that he had emailed Committee Members following the meeting and not received any objection to the approach agreed.


RESOLVED (Unanimously):


That the minutes of the Governance Committee meeting held on 22 November 2018, as amended, be agreed.


Audit Progress Report pdf icon PDF 285 KB

Report of the External Auditor attached.


The Committee received a report of the External Auditor detailing the progress being made in the delivery of their responsibilities.  The usual wider sector briefing had not been available for the agenda despatch, but would be circulated outside the meeting.


The External Auditor reported that he had met with the Council’s Section 151 Officer to discuss the implications of Brexit and further work with Lancashire councils was proposed.  The External Auditor had planned their regular meetings with the Finance Team and invites had been sent for their accountants’ workshops.


Members of the Committee raised the following key points:


·         Confirmation was sought and given that representatives of the Council’s Finance Team would be attending the accountants’ workshops referred to.

·         Reference was made to the last value for money assessment and comments made around the implementation of shared services with Chorley and whether this would be looked at as part of the audit process.  Reassurance was provided that External Audit would look at many documents and hold discussions to form their assessment.  It was likely that the new leadership team and shared services work would form part of the process.

·         The additional work on Brexit would be carried out by Grant Thornton’s advisory team and if progressed, the cost met by those councils that wished to be involved.  A discussion took place on the best timing for undertaking this piece of work. 

·         The External Auditor outlined the standards that they work to and how they add value to the audit process, including their ethical standards and regulatory framework.


RESOLVED (Unanimously):


That the report be noted.



Housing Benefit Certification Letter pdf icon PDF 446 KB

Report of the External Auditor attached.


The Committee received the External Auditor’s Housing Benefit Certification Letter.  It was reported that the letter was very positive and thanks were extended to the Council’s Housing Benefit Team for the smooth audit.


Members of the Committee raised the following key points:


·         The fact the fee for carrying out the audit remained the same was welcomed.

·         Issues raised in previous years had been resolved with additional testing by the External Auditor and the Council, which is more efficient.  Reassurance was provided that the External Auditor evidenced the testing undertaken by the Council.

·         The positive message about the audit and thanks provided would be shared with the Housing Benefits Team.


RESOLVED (Unanimously):


That the report be noted.





Internal Audit Progress Report pdf icon PDF 93 KB

Report of the Interim Head of Shared Assurance Services attached.


The Committee received a report from the Interim Head of Shared Assurance Services summarising the internal audit work undertaken for the South Ribble and the Shared Services element for the period 1 April 2018 to 31 December 2018.  The Head of Service outlined the steps she was taking to ensure the audit plan was achieved.


Concern was expressed with the level of staff resources and capacity in place for delivering the internal audit plan.  The Deputy Chief Executive (Resources and Transformation)/Section 151 Officer provided reassurance that the changes taken place in the ways of working within the internal audit team would help to deliver the audit plan.  New IT systems will also be considered to improve Audit performance in the future plan to improve transactional analysis thus reducing staff time required. It was confirmed that should additional resources be required these would be provided.


A query was raised as to how project specific risks are being managed.  It was reported that the Council had a project managers group in place that met regularly to help co-ordinate projects and ensure our project management system was utilised, including risk registers mdule.  Additionally the Programme Board took an overview of projects.


RESOLVED (Unanimously):


1.  That the report be noted.


2.  An update on progress with the audit plan be provided to the next meeting.


3.  A report on the implementation of audit recommendations be provided to the next meeting.